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10 Questions with ... Mary K
January 22, 2019
Have an opinion? Add your comment below. The future of radio is what we make it, and as a business we need to embrace and understand the millennial culture, as they can become the lifeblood of our industry. On-air talents make the future of radio exciting. Coaching on-air talents is a dream to me because they are your brand ambassadors who bring life and personality to your brands. Understanding how each personality works and engages with the listeners and lifestyle of the format is very important in order to grow their talents. Successful partnerships between PDs and talents create great morale, acceptance of the plan of action, ready for a competitive battle, and a winning mentality
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1) What gave you the idea to go into radio?
While walking the campus of Bethune Cookman College in Daytona Beach, FL, I saw a flyer that WBCC AM 830 was auditioning on-air talents. I inquired and was told you couldn't audition as a freshman. So, in true Mary fashion, I was not satisfied with that answer. My dear friend and class mate, Anthony Brown and I paid a visit to the advisor to the college radio station, Glenn "Horatio" Walker. One thing led to another and the no freshmen rule was revoked. In a short time, we both had an on-air show and mine was on Sundays and my on-air name was "Snow White." I served in various roles and my senior year in 1992, I was the PD and we operated that station like it was a full-power FM, and as a team we won "Black College Station of the Year."
The summer of 1992, I interned for 102 JAMZ/Orlando, FL in promotions under Mickey Johnson. My very good friend and college mate, Jennifer McKinney, was interning at Fox TV around the corner and she would come visit me during her lunch break. We had a very cool lounge area; complete with a Pac Man Arcade game, Pop a Shot, Otis Spunkmeyer Cookie oven, big-screen TV, comfy couches, etc. One day we had lunch in the promotion's suite (mind you I made a makeshift office for myself in the prize closet) and she asked Mickey if he heard my aircheck from WBCC. Of course, I had my aircheck on hand, he listened and halfway through he told me to sit still and he went to see Duff. That afternoon I was in Duff Lindsey's office, I was hired part-time, and that weekend I had an on-air show hosting the mix show and weekend overnight show, all two weeks before graduating college. That experience taught me so much, the value of promotions and how it works hand-in-hand with programming and sales. My on-air experience and learning everything from research, music scheduling (index card box method), production, voiceover work, and more really built a strong foundation for me.
2) Did you always want to go into programming?
When I got started in "programming," I didn't realize I was getting started in programming. My first full-time radio gig was in 1993 at Hot 101.5 in Jacksonville, FL where Mark Shands was the PD. After about two weeks of being on the air, during an aircheck session, I commented that the music in middays was "sleepy." The station was in an adjustment phase, and Mark explained to me how the musical outlook for the station was done. Mark then said, "pull up a chair," and he taught me how to use RCS Selector (a music scheduling program). I would come in before my show and reprogram my midday show and few weeks later, I was the new MD. In one book, in the 18-34 demo, we beat the legendary WAPE -- and middays went from #10 to #1!
3) Who are the people who have influenced you and how?
The people who have influenced me the most are my parents, Harold and Beatrice Schmitt. They are the most inspiring people you will ever meet. Both my parents lost their hearing at a very young age and lived in a time where society was very cruel to deaf people. It didn't stop them; they actually took it in great stride and overcame many obstacles. I get my determination from both of them.
In my career history, I have had the pleasure to work with some great and interesting people but the folks who influenced me the most are (in alphabetical order because you know how radio people are, LOL):
Brian Douglas was my PD at 102 JAMZ/Greensboro. He is a music scheduling genius, hard driving talent coach, and has an amazing creative wit. I mastered the skill of out-of-the-box programming promotions and creative writing from my Greensboro days. He was able to take my talents and challenge me to take them even further in my on-air work, music scheduling, show pre-production, imaging, creative writing, street presence and more.
Buck Wilde taught me that all on-air talents are not the same. From him I was able to understand the mindset of a morning show and how to better communicate and coach them.
David Dubose was my GM at 957 JAMZ/Birmingham. I learned that live-and-local wins every time. My days in Birmingham were not only about winning but most importantly how to serve our community.
Duff Lindsey was my very first PD at 102 JAMZ/Orlando. He is by far one the best talent coach ever and was important in my growth as an on-air personality. He saw/heard something in me that he was able to groom and take to the next level. My one-thought-per-break mentality is driven from him.
Glenn "Horatio" Walker was my college radio advisor and has continued to be my mentor since 1988. He was very instrumental in setting the tone for my career path. He also taught be the importance of helping others in our business.
Harold Bray, my college band director; awarded me a music scholarship to Bethune Cookman College in Daytona Beach, FL and without this scholarship I would have not been able to attend college for two reasons: 1) My grades were horrible, but I had enough to get admitted as an "at risk" student; and 2) the financial aspect. He taught me self-worth, discipline, and to keep going when the going gets tough. He was very supportive my college radio affiliation as well.
Jerry Clifton ... while at 102 JAMZ/Orlando, I had a standing aircheck session with Duff, and a "man" I never saw before was in his office during "my" time. Duff explained he was in a meeting, but Jerry said, "Come on in with that aircheck" during the session I asked Jerry flat out "who he was and why I should listen to him" and the rest is history.
Mark Shands is an incredible talent coach. He was my PD for my first full-time gig at HOT 1015 in Jacksonville. I remember asking him how he wanted me to "sound" on the air, and he said exactly this "be yourself". Mark also taught me how to be an excellent music director, music scheduling and how to invoke flow to your music line up.
Paige Nienaber has been a promotional consultant at various stations I have worked. He taught me how to think outside the box when it comes to the promotional aspect of programming. Most often when designing a concept, I think in terms of "what would Paige do?" My best April Fools prank at 957 JAMZ was Six Flags under Birmingham. Took weeks to prepare but totally paid off. We even had a church bus filled with kids in front of the radio station. Needless to say, I went to confessional that week and asked for some forgiveness.
Steve Smith has been a consultant at various stations that I have worked, and starting in 2011 while I was at Cox Media, he was the VP/Programming. Steve introduced me to "where hip-hop lives" and taking my on-air talents and shows to another level of show business. I get my "it's a SHOW not shift" mentality from him.
4) Could you share your programming philosophy?
Being that I'm very competitive, I keep my programmer's "holy grail" very close to the vest. However, I will say this, to be a successful PD, I think back to all my past PDs and the common thread was they all loved what they did, had a genuine concern for their staff, and loved music.
5) Is it hard to jump from one format to another as an air talent or programmer?
No. I feel that the basic principles of radio and great programming apply to all formats. As a programmer you must be able to "eat the frog" daily, budget time for each of your brands/talents, and understand the nuances of each format. "Eat the frog" is a nod to not procrastinate.
6) How important is incorporating other platforms into your programming strategies?
Strategies can be evolving. It's like technology; it improves on every version of a product. Radio stations are products of creativity. Radio 20 years ago didn't include all the various digital resources. Now, radio stations and talents are doing not only on-air shows but shows on social media outlets, websites, podcasts, TV shows, at-home listening devices, apps, live streams and more. Therefore, it is imperative to have a strategy that includes all elements that make up your radio stations. Also, I believe it's important in strategy to leave room for future advancements and new tools.
7) What gets you most excited about the future of radio?
The future of radio is what we make it, and as a business we need to embrace and understand the millennial culture, as they can become the lifeblood of our industry. On-air talents make the future of radio exciting. Coaching on-air talents is a dream to me because they are your brand ambassadors who bring life and personality to your brands. Understanding how each personality works and engages with the listeners and lifestyle of the format is very important in order to grow their talents. Successful partnerships between PDs and talents create great morale, acceptance of the plan of action, ready for a competitive battle, and a winning mentality.
8) What's the funniest or coolest thing you've ever been a part of in this business?
I have tons of stories, but the one that stands out the most is about a book contest promotion at 102 JAMZ/Greensboro, NC. It was the $10,000 Black Box, and there were three items inside the black box. Listeners had to guess what those items were, get all three correct, win $10K. The promotion was HUGE! Kendall B. and I were out driving the JAMZ Van (we called it the 8 Ball) and passing out clues to the contents of the black box. After we were done at the stops, we headed back to the station on a two-lane road. This woman sped around us and then slammed on her breaks. Not to mention she had her car blocking traffic each way, she jumped out of her car and ran up to the van wanting her clue sheet. From that moment, we knew we had a hit contest on our hands. About three weeks later, during my show, I was playing the Black Box contest, and a woman was on the line; she did her guesses. Only Brian Douglas and Kendall B knew the contents, so we would have to call them to verify the answers. I called, reported the answers, they came running in to hear them in person. BD looked at me and said, "All three are correct; congrats Mary, you are giving away $10,000." I was shaking like a leaf. I got the woman back on the recording, had her repeat her answers "basketball, Orange Julius, and a sit n spin." When I told her, she had won $10,000, she gasped and then sobbed. She cried and cried; I let her take control of the contest. Turns out her mother had just passed away and she needed the money to cover funeral expenses, I cried along with her. Once we got to more of a conversation part of the contest, I asked, "How did you figure out the last item in the black box?" She said that her grandson played on a sit n spin almost every day, and the sound matched our sound clue. My contest was nearly nine minutes long, I played it in its entirety. To this day, this is by far the most special contest I have ever done.
9) Would you share with us the importance of understanding office politics?
Office politics is important in any field. The role of understanding your managers, direct reports, various departments, and colleagues is imperative in creating a great atmosphere. Not everyone operates the same, passions vary, and what motivates one doesn't motivate the other. It's best to attempt to figure out how you can support the individuals on the team the best way you can.
10) Why do you like about being an air personality?
Simply put, the connection to the listeners. It is a great balance of being creative and being involved with the community. I also enjoy the fact that not every day is the same and it's full of surprises.
Bonus Questions
What challenges do you face being in this business?
A challenge that many in the industry face is the work -- life balance. I've done a much better job over the years really creating a balance for myself. I highly suggest that you discover a hobby and schedule time to enjoy the creation of that hobby. For me, it's oil painting. It really helps my creative mindset.
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